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AEE Episode 610: Listen Today and Then Call It a Day

Announcer: This is an All Ears English podcast episode 610: “Listen Today and Then Call It a Day” [Instrumental] Announcer: Welcome to the All Ears English Podcast, downloaded more than 16 million times. We believe in Connection NOT Perfection ™, with your American hosts Lindsay McMahon, the ‘English Adventurer’, and Michelle Kaplan, the ‘New York Radio Girl,’ coming to you from Boston and New York City, U.S.A. [Instrumental] Announcer: And to instantly download your transcript from today’s episode, go to AllEarsEnglish.com/transcripts, AllEarsEnglish.com/transcripts. [Instrumental] Announcer: Today find out how to use the super natural phrase "Call it a day," and find out when to use it, so that you can connect with the people around you. [Instrumental] Lindsay:

What up, Michelle? How are you doing?

Michelle:

Hey (hi) Lindsay, I'm good, I'm good. How are you?

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Lindsay:

Well, I am great. I did finish my big hike in the Presidential Range in the White Mountains. It was super intense, but I'm done. I accomplished… Well, we didn't quite finish the whole hike because we had bad weather the next day.

Michelle:

Ohh.

Lindsay: thing.

We had to come down early, but we hiked about 50 percent of the whole

Michelle:

So how long did that take you?

Lindsay:

It took us about 12 hours, 11-12 hours of kind of constant hiking.

Michelle:

Ohh, my gosh.

Lindsay:

We really didn't take too many breaks. The maximum break time we took was about ten minutes.

Michelle:

Really? What?

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). It was five mountains.

Michelle:

Wow.

Lindsay:

So, you get to the top of Mount Washington, you look back and you see a massive mountain range of five mountains that you've just climbed.

Michelle:

Wow.

Lindsay:

It is insane. Yeah.

Michelle:

That's cool. I did not do that. [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter] What did you do over the weekend?

Michelle:

What did I do? Ohh, I was home. I was home. [laughter]

Lindsay:

Okay.

Michelle:

So I got to hang out with my niece and nephew.

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Lindsay:

Ohh.

Michelle:

And being with my nephew, it sometimes feels like a hike, because he's very active.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes).

Michelle:

And it's very tiring.

Lindsay:

They do make you really tired. I'm going to go see Emory, my niece, on Sunday. I'm going to rent a car and her mom, my sister-in-law, is doing a marathon. So we're going to go watch her mom. And they're very tiring. I love hanging out with my niece, but it's exhausting.

Michelle:

Ohh, my God.

Lindsay:

With a four-year-old, three-year-old, two-year-old. Ohh my God.

Michelle:

Yeah. I mean, he's the cutest. Ohh my gosh, I can't even believe how cute he is, but you definitely need to have the energy. [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter] How old is, it's Jake, right?

Michelle:

Jake. Yeah (yes), Jake. He's – umm -- he’s three years old.

Lindsay:

Ohh. It's awesome.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), ohh my gosh. And he is just, I mean, so much energy. [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter] That's so cool.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), he is hilarious. So funny.

Lindsay:

I love that. I love that.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

Well let's start off today, Michelle, saying thank you to some of our reviewers. Guys, we need your reviews in the iTunes store. Let's say thank you here to Hassan Dubarrari from the USA. Who else, Michelle?

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Michelle:

Underground Learner in 50s from the USA. [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter] Love these names. We have Humber Trope from Brazil.

Michelle:

And Allen Gr 28 from Mexico.

Lindsay:

And Micky 811 from Italy.

Michelle:

And... Uhh ohh. I'm going to, let me, I'm trying. _____ from Indonesia.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes).

Michelle:

I'm sorry! [laughter]

Lindsay:

That's hard, that's not easy. That's really not easy. Guys, we really need your reviews. We haven't had any reviews in the last few weeks, and we're wondering what's going on, guys.

Michelle:

Where are you?

Lindsay:

If you hear this episode today, right now, going over to the iTunes review store, leave your review and we will announce your name on the show. We want to know what you think of All Ears English. So guys, go on over there and do it. Alright. Cool, Michelle. So what are you talking about today?

Michelle:

We are talking about calling it a day. [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter] Well Michelle, we just started, why do you want to call it a day already? I mean, we just started recording today. [laughter]

Michelle:

Lindsay, I'm just a really tired today. Like, I don't know. Let's call it a day. I don't know, I'm beat, hooh!

Lindsay:

[laughter] Geez Michelle, we just got on this ca ll, like, half an hour ago. You want to call it a day already?

Michelle:

Let's call it a day. No, you know what, okay, fine. We can do it. We can do it, Lindsay.

Lindsay:

[laughter]

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Michelle:

I'm going to push through.

Lindsay:

So that’s the expression that we're going to show you guys today is the expression "To call it a day." And I came up with this idea because I was just out in the world and observing what I say, and what other people say. So this is straight from native English on the street. This is not, you know, fabricated in the textbook; this is real for you guys.

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

So you can trust that when we teach you this expression today, it's real. And if you start using it, it really will bring you closer to the native speakers that you're talking with.

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

What do you think about that, Michelle?

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), for sure. This is a really conversational phrase. I know I say this a lot.

Lindsay:

Yes.

Michelle:

Umm. And I really think that it's a good one. [laughter]

Lindsay:

Okay. So good. Yeah (yes). So the phrase is "To call it a day."

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

And Michelle, how do we normally use it? I mean, where does it fall in the day, what else goes with it?

Michelle:

Well, I mean, it's usually, you know, towards the end of the day, of course.

Lindsay:

Mhh hmm.

Michelle:

And 'Let's call it a day', it's really just, you know, "We're done. We're done." [laughter]

Lindsay:

It's over. I want to -- It means, "I want to stop.” Right?

Michelle:

Yeah (yes).

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Lindsay:

And it's kind of a, like a, sometimes it's kind of harsh when you just say, "I want to stop."

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

You know, "I want to stop working. I want to stop listening to this music or I want to stop eating here." Whatever it is. Like, just calling it a day is a much more casual, connected way to say it, I think.

Michelle:

Right, right. Umm. And something, just to be clear, like, you don’t want to use it in all situations, just when you want to say to stop something. Like, my first image is like, "Oh, we're on a roller coaster." [laughter]

Lindsay:

[laughter]

Michelle:

And I'm like, "Let's call it a day!"

Lindsay:

[laughter]

Michelle:

Not in that situation. Guys, let’s be clear. Like, you know, it's more for like, oh, maybe at the end of the day, or maybe, like, you give that expression at a restaurant. Maybe you want to say, "Okay, let's leave."

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes).

Michelle:

Or something like that. But if you're in the middle of eating a sandwich and you don't like the sandwich, you wouldn't say "Let's call it a day".

Lindsay:

That's a good point. That's a really good point.

Michelle:

I think it is a little more like the end of an event.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes), I think it's more for the end of an event, or like a project.

Michelle:

Right, right.

Lindsay:

A focused period where you're working or you're working on something.

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

With someone else. Right?

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Michelle:

Right, right, right, right, exactly.

Lindsay:

So that's important.

Michelle:

[laughter]

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). Or even maybe – maybe, you know, you're hitting the tennis ball with someone, and you're getting tired.

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

And you're like, "Ohh, let's call it a day, let's go have a beer." Or something.

Michelle:

Perfect. Perfect. Right.

Lindsay:

Okay.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes). That would be appropriate way to use it.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes), I like that. Okay, that's good. I'm glad that we specified there, because we want to make sure, part of this guys, is using it at the right time, and we're giving you the phrase that's natural. But if you're putting it in the wrong places at the wrong time, it's going to look very weird. [laughter]

Michelle:

[laughter]

Lindsay:

We want to help you guys connect.

Michelle:

For sure.

Lindsay:

Okay, so the first phrase you can use is, “Let's call it a day.” That's the one I hear the most.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

And then, how else might we say it, Michelle?

Michelle:

You can also say, "Want to call it a day?"

Lindsay:

Mhh hmm.

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Michelle:

Like, "What do you think?" You know, it's more putting it on the other person, more like a suggestion, you know?

Lindsay:

Exactly. So it's, like, you could say 'Wanna', "Wanna call it a day?" Right?

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

Instead of 'Want to', "Wanna call it a day?"

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

And we've talked about wanna, gonna, shoulda, coulda in other episodes, guys. So come back to AllEarsEnglish.com and type that in the search bar, and you'll find that. Okay?

[Instrumental] Announcer: Guys, if you feel like you're listening today and you're hearing some phrases and you're not sure exactly how to use them, and you want to be able to practice them in a lesson, get the transcripts from today. Go to AllEarsEnglish.com/Transcripts. See you there. [Instrumental] Lindsay:

The next one, Michelle, what is it?

Michelle:

"Should we call it a day?"

Lindsay:

Okay. Another way of just checking in with the person you're -- we're working with, or playing with, to see what they feel.

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

Okay?

Michelle:

Yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

And the last one is just, "I'm going to call it a day."

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), yeah (yes), yeah (yes), yeah (yes).

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Lindsay:

Okay. So these are not the only places that it could be used in, but these are just some examples to give you guys a little bit of context where is it used.

Michelle:

Right, right, exactly. And yeah (yes), I mean, as you can see, we have two questions and two statements. So, obviously the question, it's more you're asking the other person, and the other one is more, "Okay, you're done."

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes), it's good. I like that. Because again, it's kind of harsh if we just say, "I'm going to stop." Or, "Let's stop." Or, "Do you want to stop?" It's just a little too formal.

Michelle:

"I'm done." Yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

Little too abrupt. You need another way to soften what you're about to say.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

Okay.

Michelle:

That's so funny, like, "Let's call it a day." Like, what does that even mean? It's so funny to think of.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). I guess it makes sense, though. I think it's kind of intuitive.

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

It's like, "Let's call it the end of the day."

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

It's end of the day. Like, it probably goes back to, like, I don't know, like, mining cultures or something on... Guys were in the mines all day and, you know, or some kind of heavy industrial work.

Michelle:

Who knows?

Lindsay:

That's my guess. I have no idea.

Michelle:

[laughter]

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Lindsay:

Origin of the phrase. [laughter]

Michelle:

[laughter] That's a good theory, yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

It's a theory. [laughter] It's all a theory, Michelle. [laughter]

Michelle:

[laughter]

Lindsay:

How do you pronounce it, though? How do we actually say it so that it sounds natural?

Michelle:

Yeah (yes). So, you know, you really want to, you know, connect things together, right? To roll your words together. So, let's call it a day. Call it a day. Right? So, you're not going to say, like, "Let's call it a day."

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes).

Michelle:

You know, like, "Let's call it a day." Call it a day. It sounds like one word.

Lindsay:

Call-it-a-day. Good.

Michelle:

It sounds like a medication or something.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes), exactly. And again, we're teaching you guys the American English. Not British English. So, British English, I'm not sure if they use this expression in British English.

Michelle:

I don't know.

Lindsay:

They would pronounce it differently, obviously. But if you're listening to this podcast, then you know that you're mostly getting American English. Occasionally, we have guests on the show who are British but…

Michelle:

Yeah (yes).

Lindsay:

Or Australian.

Michelle:

I don't know if I just put on a little British accent there. I'm not sure.

Lindsay:

You did. That's cool.

Michelle:

I'm sorry. [laughter]

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Lindsay:

[laughter] No, that's fun. I love accents, I find them really interesting.

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), ohh, I especially love the British accent.

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes)? You like it better than the Australian accent?

Michelle:

Mmm, the two of them. They're both excellent. I don't know.

Lindsay:

I love the Aussie accent.

Michelle:

I don't know if I can choose one, but I love them both.

Lindsay:

[laughter]

Michelle:

I really do. I kind of wish I had one. [laughter]

Lindsay:

That's awesome.

Michelle:

Anyway, so call it a day sounds like, "Oh, don't take call-it-a-day if you are taking other medication."

Lindsay:

[laughter] Sounds like a medication to you?

Michelle:

Yeah (yes), yeah (yes), yeah (yes). So but yeah (yes), we do roll it together, right? Let's call-it-a-day. Anyway.

Lindsay:

We do roll it together. And then, so we know that it means to finish whatever we're doing.

Michelle:

Right.

Lindsay:

If it's a project, or we're working on something, or playing a game, something like that. But then there's got to be a few other ways to say something similar in this kind of, like, casual way. Right? So we're going to give you guys three other ways to say something kind of similar, not to say exactly the same thing, but to say something similar.

Michelle:

Okay.

Lindsay:

So what would be the first one, Michelle?

Michelle:

I like this one. "Let's throw in the towel."

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Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). "Throw in the towel." So the difference, for you Michelle, is there any clear difference in the meaning? I mean, they're very similar, but what's the difference in the meaning "Let's call it a day" and "Let's throw in the towel?"

Michelle:

"Throw in the towel" is more, like, maybe you're giving up. Right?

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). Yeah (yes), yeah (yes).

Michelle:

You decide to quit something, right? "Ah, let's throw in the towel." Right?

Lindsay:

Yeah (yes). Sometimes it can mean you completely quit trying to do something.

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

Right?

Michelle:

Mhh hmm.

Lindsay:

And you can also use it in the same way, "Let's throw in the towel for today." It doesn't necessarily mean tha...