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9-22-2015 “Musings on Humanity and origins, is there evidence?” I will try to make a case for a long historical process leading to things we see today. I am simply following mostly fact based clues with reason. My thinking is that the 1st religions and writings were a response to incredible events. ...

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9-22-2015 “Musings on Humanity and origins, is there evidence?” I will try to make a case for a long historical process leading to things we see today. I am simply following mostly fact based clues with reason. My thinking is that the 1st religions and writings were a response to incredible events. These people did not write silly fantasy. The documenting of these events was likely a GROUP effort and highly scrutinized for accuracy. That is why I look to the OLDEST written docs...Greeks, Nag Hamadi etc. I have studied the Summerian tablets, Enki and most of the ancient texts. The Ethiopian and Jewish texts are likely quite accurate. The Bible is also likely quite accurate but not as complete. The Qua ran I believe is the words of God. It is a book of signs and I have seen many there. Why did God create us? Why do we only think of us and creation? God must have a hand in the beasts and bugs etc, it says so in the Bible and other texts. He was a developer, creating a system. It appears they were making all kinds of living things...sometimes you get technical problems (thalidomide like things, flippers etc). Peace was the greeting...not “fight or die” Survival of the fittest...really? This implies we should fight each other for dominance and gain. God and Jesus and Mohammed said “your greeting is Peace.” Science is fact..right? SURVIVAL requires dominance. I must not understand. I must look to nature for its view. As I believe God created nature and every living thing, what is different about us...it was APPLES...knowledge. We are so smart now that we realize these silly tales were just to scare kids. Disrespect for others and the Earth is thick. Arrogance and challenge is the norm, co-operation is weakness. “sayeth the CONGRESS. Why do some animals and groups get along? In general life is a system. Most systems function nicely when parts work smoothly with each other. Termites...ants...bees and other animals seem to get along, co-operate, help and quite often sacrifice for each other. They also have affection, protect young, seem to respect each other. Why didn't the Angels have sex with animals? I believe it is because animals are and always were not good sex playmates and without speech and opposable thumbs, there are other limitations. Besides why not make them really hot looking and DUMB. “Let us make them in our own image”. Good looking totally blank minded Chicks...Talk about temptation! “hey little girl want a candy APPLE?” Then you know what happened...Must have been like that island in Ponokeo. Probably some Donkey people to. Why did they have and how big were the Giants? About the "Sons of God and Daughters of Man": 1...God said lets make man in "our" image. Therefore God was the likeness of the other 200 "sons of God". 2...Everybody speaks of giants but Mohamed specifically denotes Adams height, lets say 90ft. (60 cubits). 3...Adam was created in Gods image so God and all the angels and Adam and Adams' daughters and close offspring would all be about 90ft tall. 4...Sons of God (90fters) went into daughters of man (90fters) and they produced "Giants 3000 ells tall" according to Enoch who was there and speaks directly about it in 1st person "Book of Enoch". BTW Enoch was supposedly good friends with God and it appears God liked him so much he let him into heaven early (actually God took him). 5...The giants were not merely 90ft tall, average people were 90ft tall

in those earliest days. The giants born to them were 3000 ells high, that is over a mile high. I believe "layered intrusions" are ancient giant creatures. I will soon post a paper which will detail the chemistry and logic. 6...Recent DNA and cat scan evidence for Human giants is unimpeachable and true. If that unbelievable myth is true, there is no reason to blindly dismiss the “Titans and Olympians” unbelievable stories and claims. 7...I believe the statements in the religious texts about the Giants from the mating of angels and human beings were NOT "The Men of Old". The statement needs to be analyzed again. The statement is “There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” It makes no sense that the new Giants from the sons of God would be the "Men of old". I believe the "Men of old" were the Giants in the Earth in those days", the Olympians and Titans and "Then after that when the sons of God went into the daughters of man and they bore them Giants" these were the new giants, not the “Men of old”. (see Giants rephrased below) ust before the story of Noah’s ark in the Torah it states, "And it came to pass when man commenced to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the benei elokim saw the daughters of man when they were beautifying themselves, and they took for themselves wives from whomever they chose. And the L-rd said, “Let My spirit not quarrel forever concerning man, because he is also flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years." The nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the benei elokim would come to the daughters of man, and they would bear for them; they are the mighty men, who were of old, the men of renown. (Genesis 6:1–4) REPHRASED: And it came to pass when man commenced to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the benei elokim saw the daughters of man when they were beautifying themselves, and they took for themselves wives from whomever they chose. And the L-rd said, “Let My spirit not quarrel forever concerning man, because he is also flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years." The nephilim were on the earth in those days they are the mighty men, who were of old, the men of renown, and also afterward, when the benei elokim would come to the daughters of man, and they would bear [children]for them. (Genesis 6:1– 4R) -----------------------------benei elokim...they are the watchers, the 200 fallen angels were watchers gone bad. Nephilim are the giants that were born of the sons of God and daughters of men. -----------------------------------------------------------I think it makes sense to consider these statements and if rephrased do they make more sense? CHRISTIAN BIBLES: KJ1611

There were Giants in the earth in those daies: and also after that, when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men, & they bare children to them; the same became mightie men, which were of old, men of renowme. REPHRASED: KJ1611R There were Giants in the earth in those daies, the same were mightie men which were of old, men of renowme, and also after that when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men & they bare giant children to them. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------KJV.... There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. REPHRASED: KJVR.... There were giants in the earth in those days they were the mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare giant children to them. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------POSSIBLE GIANTS IN THE QUARAN: The people of 'Ad lived near Hadramout, which is now in Yemen. They built temples and worshiped multiple deities. The people of 'Ad once believed in one God but eventually turned to others, mainly Saqi'ah, Salimah, Raziqah and Hafizun. God eventually destroyed them for being bad people and their extreme bad ways. I think it was lots more than not praying 5 times a day. It appears they were arrogant and lots of problems with them and their rejection of Gods' path of love, respect, trust, friendship, compassion and security for all which is Gods' goodness. Those people were much like we are today. They were eventually wiped out by a disaster after a prolonged drought. If we can't get along here on Earth we are not allowed into heaven appears to be the rule. There are extremists in all religions and all facets of society. I believe most extremists are driven by feelings of injustice. If injustice is ignored even normally peaceful people will sympathize with the cause. The extremists are committed to their beliefs but need to re-examine what God would feel about their methods and interpretation of his commands. I don't think anyone will be secure until we meet, talk, eat, play music and sports together and learn to respect and trust each other even if we seek God in different ways. Adams' greeting was to be PEACE and Allahs mercy, not believe or die. Violence is not the way but will most likely continue unless old enemies reach new agreements. Muslims are tolerant and so is God. If you are good to others you will be welcomed into heaven. The Quaran says basically "Don't you see what God can and will do?" (in the following quotes)"Seest thou not how Thy Lord dealt with the 'Ad (people), of

the (city of) Iram, with lofty pillars, the like of which were not produced in (all) the land?" (Qur'an 89:6-8) "(Remember also) the 'Ad and the Thamud (people): clearly will appear to you from (the traces) of their buildings (their fate) Satan made their deeds alluring to them, and kept them back from the Path, though they were Keen-sighted." (Qur'an 29:38) [The people of 'Ad were tall in stature and were skillful masons. God had given them abundance of wealth, cattle, children and gardens. They had attained a considerable degree of civilization. Among them flourished the famous king Shaddad. He built a magnificent palace near 'Aden. It was known as the Garden of Iram. He was a mighty king and his conquests extended to Syria, Iraq and the frontier of Sub- continent of IndoPakistan. These people were proud of their achievements and considered themselves to be invincible. They were indulged in sins and committed acts of injustice and violence. Instead of expressing a deep sense of gratitude to the Almighty God for the favors He had bestowed upon them, they became transgressors and showed disobedience to Him.] (2) Conclusions: 1...Humans could very well have started at 90ft tall due to fossil evidence recently found. (as ancient text state). 2...The oldest books and stories, myth and folklore are fairly similar and could be quite accurate. 3...Giants of this size have been considered ridiculous to even entertain the possibility. Unfortunately this is academias attitude even in the face of this physical evidence and therefore ignored. 4...God or Allah, Christ, Mohamed and many more are likely real. It appears to me that the early authors were amazed as we would be and likely were truthful of their accounts. Writing a book in those early days would be quite a task. If these things are true, we are in deep trouble if we don't change quickly. 5...Mohamed was quite clear about Allah's statements to Adam, The message was Peace and may God have mercy on you. Remember this, the Mercy part depends on the Peace part. Peace ONLY happens with love, respect, trust, friendship, compassion and security for all. 6...When workers scrape by and do the actual work, but the top 1% gets millions and bonuses for cutbacks, when worker quality of life issues are not met, this is wrong. There are economic incentives to the well off for all their neighbors to be proud secure contributors as well. 7...Wealthy and affluent individuals are needed to do good works, once again part 1 should be followed by part 2. 8...Everyones security is everyones security. When some are insecure of their simple basic needs, many others will follow, then in time all. 9...Scientific arrogance and unaccountability is to blame for not examining evidence that confirms some very old "unbelievable" stories. Author Roger Spurr [email protected] References:

1...http://answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm 2...http://www.islamicbulletin.org/newsletters/issue_7/hud.aspx...