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by Julie Lawrence (Instructor) - Tuesday, 15 June 2021, 4:38 PM

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Impressionism is often considered the rst, true, modern art style. Do you agree with this statement, or not? In

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Leon Kirton - Friday, 23 July 2021, 8:29 AM

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I would agree with this statement to a certain degree, but not entirely. The denition of modern art is “the creative world's response to the rationalist practices and perspectives of the new lives and ideas provided by the technological advances of the industrial age that caused contemporary society to manifest itself in new ways compared to the past (The Art Story, n.d.). Based on this denition, as well as that Dr. Gersh-Nesic writes that Realism originated during the Industrial Era and Realistic painters such as Courbet inspired movements away from “classical gods and biblical stories” (n.d.) to paintings around their own principles such as his statement that “if you can’t see it, then you can’t paint it”. Impressionism also has its roots strongly based on the traditions of Realism (Kiama Art Gallery, 2015), and thus I would argue that Realism was the start of modern art and impressionism was the rst true modern art style since it didn’t have to go through the transition phase from Classical and Romantic art to depicting the modern world as Realism did. I would however say that Impressionist art opened up the art world to many new techniques, concepts, and ideas that were not inline with “traditional” art. Such as the artists coming together to hold their own exhibitions, using an art style that looked more like quick sketches than nished paintings, refuting the idea from The Academy that only history can be used to make great paintings and used subject matter such as landscapes and painting outside, and for me the most striking part is the capture of a moment in atmospheric conditions in the landscape paintings (Gersh-Nesic, 2015). One of my absolutely favorite impressionist paintings, and also one of the most famous paintings in the world is The Starry Night by Vincent van Gogh pictured below (Richman-Abdou & Cole, 2021) who was not one of the original impressionist painters but was heavily inuenced by their work and was considered a post-impressionist painter.

What makes this an impressionist painting, is the short brushstrokes and articial color palette which focuses on luminescence, subject matter which seems like an “impression” of a subject that the artist quickly sketched in order to nish later, and the striking landscape and sky scene, as well as the symbolism in the painting depicting his longing for freedom, since it was painted from behind bars at an asylum (Richman-Abdou & Cole, 2021). References: Gersh-Nesic, B. (n.d.). A beginner’s guide to Realism. https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/becoming-modern/avant-garde-france/realism/a/abeginners-guide-to-realism Gersh-Nesic, B. (2015). Impressionism, an introduction. https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/becoming-modern/avant-garde-france/impressionism/a/abeginners-guide-to-impressionism Kiama Art Gallery (2015). Impressionism – The transition from Realism in the 1860s. https://kiamaartgallery.wordpress.com/2015/05/03/impressionism-the-transition-from-realism-in-the1860s/ Richman-Abdou, K., Cole, M. (2021). How Van Gogh’s ‘The Starry Night’ Came to Be and Continues to Inspire Artists. https://mymodernmet.com/starry-night-van-gogh/ The Art Story (n.d.). Denition of Modern Art. https://www.theartstory.org/denition/modernart/history-and-concepts/

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Hannah Momoh - Saturday, 24 July 2021, 10:24 AM Hi Leon, You've got a lovely art work here depicting an impressionist painting. They are usually in separated colours, and allowing viewers’ perception to mix them. Thanks for this. Regards Hannah 31 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Amjad Damra - Monday, 26 July 2021, 2:02 PM Hi, Leon, your work is great and you have shared a nice paint 13 words

Re: Week 6 Discussion by Aqib Shaikh - Monday, 26 July 2021, 7:22 PM Well done!! You made some really good points and have covered the question completely. I enjoyed understanding form a dierent perspective. You also structured your post very well. Thanks 29 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Maryanne Uzoukwu - Monday, 26 July 2021, 11:17 PM Hi Leon, Love this painting by Van Gogh as well, he is between my all-time favorite painters. And I completely agree with you in that realism was the rst art movement. Excellent work as usual! 35 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Kasim Adeleke - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 3:29 PM Dear Leon, You really put up a good submission, you were so explicit and explained the dierence between the realism and impressionism. And I quite agree with you that since Realism was before impressionism and it has its origin through realism this means realism is the genesis of modern art while impressionism was the rst true modern art that came to existence as a result of criticism and they changed virtually everything about the traditional method. They impressed themselves and believed they would impress their clients or the looker and exhibitionist through their unique styles that looked more like unnished job. Well done for a great job. 107 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Fatoumatta Nagib - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 3:57 PM Hi Leon Great work I like that you didn't just present information but added the impressionism image to it I will take note to do that too next assignment Thanks... 30 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Mistreselasie Abate - Wednesday, 28 July 2021, 12:24 PM Excellent article. Impressionism is a fascinating period in art history; your work is fantastic, and you shared a lovely painting. 20 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Oscar Nyaboga - Thursday, 29 July 2021, 1:31 AM This is well written and a great example. Excellent work! 10 words

Re: Week 6 Discussion by Jennyfer Hong - Thursday, 29 July 2021, 8:08 AM Hello Leon, Thank you for your contribution this week. I really agree with your sentence in the post, "I would however say that Impressionist art opened up the art world to many new techniques, concepts, and ideas that were not inline with “traditional” art." I think the speak so clearly about it. 52 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Douglas White - Thursday, 29 July 2021, 8:43 AM Great post, I love you selection of the starry night. I absolutely agree that it opened the art style up to dierent techniques. Their ability to come together was also key as well for the movement spring boarding 38 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Hannah Momoh - Friday, 23 July 2021, 1:11 PM According to studies, impressionism is mostly referred to as the rst modern movement in painting or rst modern art styles. I do agree with this statement because the larger stream of modernization

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designed the circumstances that motivated the movement. (Sotheby's, 2020) It is seen as a learned or artistic style that tries to catch a feeling or knowledge instead of achieving true depiction. Impressionism is a style or movement in painting beginning in France in the 1860s, identied by a concern with representing the visual impact of the moment, particularly in times of the shifting eect of color and light. (HarperCollins, n.d) It is also a style of presentation that is linked mainly with Debussy in which evidence of structure and idea is subject to harmonious eects, using the whole-tone scale. (HarperCollins, n.d) Impressionism is a 19th-century art movement dened by thin, small, yet evident brush strokes, and clear presentation. It stresses the realistic depiction of light in its dynamic characters, "often accentuating the eects of the passage of time". It involves common subjects, and formation of movement as a vital element of human thought and knowledge, and unique visuals. (Sotheby's, 2020) REFERENCE Tong, D. (2018). Art Com. Oxford Art Online. https://doi.org/10.1093/oao/9781884446054.013.2000000110 Sotheby's. (2020, January 14). Impressionism. Sothebys.com. https://www.sothebys.com/en/artmovements/impressionism#:~:text=Impressionism%20is%20often%20termed%20the%20rst%20modern HarperCollins Publishers Ltd. (n.d.). Impressionism denition and meaning: Collins English Dictionary. Impressionism denition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/impressionism. 266 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Aqib Shaikh - Monday, 26 July 2021, 7:23 PM This is a pretty good post - you gave pretty comprehensive responses to all of the criteria. 16 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Maryanne Uzoukwu - Monday, 26 July 2021, 11:20 PM

Hi Hannah, That is one lovely paint! It seems to be oil on canvas? Impressionism was denitely an important art movement, and I think there is no foul in considering it or even other art movements as the rst ones, as art continues to be subjective for all of us. 50 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Kasim Adeleke - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 3:44 PM Dear Hannah, You have a very concise write up with well explanation here. You were able to support your reason very well and the painting you used as an example depicted a true impressionistic job because it appeared like its still a continuous job, there is a moment of atmospheric conditions in the landscape of the painting and the eect of stroke of the brushes gave it a unique job. only that you did not include the impressionist who painted the job and when and where was it done? You reference and intext citations were APA formats as well. Nice job. 101 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Fatoumatta Nagib - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 3:58 PM Hi Hannah Great post Short and precise And great image too 11 words

Re: Week 6 Discussion by Oscar Nyaboga - Thursday, 29 July 2021, 1:31 AM The art choice that you went with is really good. Great work! 12 words

Re: Week 6 Discussion by Aqib Shaikh - Friday, 23 July 2021, 8:08 PM I completely agree that Impressionism is frequently regarded as the rst real contemporary art style. This is because Impressionist painters tried to produce a awless image of what a person, light, or landscape seemed like to them by using a simple brushstroke. The impressionist artists created art from their own experiences, which is why they were dubbed impressionists. Impression, Sunrise, 1874, oil on canvas (Musée Marmottan, Paris) by Claude Monet

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“Claude Monet's Impression: Sunrise is an outstanding Impressionist painting in numerous aspects, not least of which is its title,” according to the image. It shows a misty harbor scene at Le Havre (a port city in Northern France), in which boats and persons are reduced to at, shadowy shadows, while the sun's crimson light reected on the sea acquires physical shape in very apparent brushstrokes.” (n.d., Dr. Charles Cramer and Dr. Kim Grant) As can be observed in Claude Monet's Impression, the art is extremely appealing since it is drawn from a basic art using only a brush and a few colors of painting with a lovely reection of light or sunshine, which produces real, modern art style. Reference Dr. Charles Cramer and Dr. Kim Grant, (n.d). The Khan Academy. What does “Impressionism” mean? Retrieved from: https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/becomingmodern/avant-gardefrance/impressionism/a/what-does-impressionism-mean 218 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Hannah Momoh - Saturday, 24 July 2021, 10:29 AM Hello Aqib, Thanks for the description of the an impressionist! Just to add to your point. The Impressionist painters use colours that look more vibrant due to the rapid painting technique to catch an ephemeral quality of the subject. Great job! Warm regards Hannah 44 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Kasim Adeleke - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 5:00 PM Hello Aqib, You were so briefed about this week assignment despite your agreement you still did not show case an impressionistic art work as demanded by the instructor just to support the one you mentioned.] i.e. Impression, Sunrise (Impression, soleil levant) the oil on canvas by Claude Monet who was one of the frontiers or pioneers of impressionism movement. You actually described everything about their works i mean the impressionist and their styles, well done. Regards, Kasim 78 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Douglas White - Thursday, 29 July 2021, 8:45 AM I agree they were creating from their experience and what they thought things should look like. Great job with the description 21 words

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by Lawrence (Instructor) - Friday, 23 July 2021, 8:54 PM Re:Julie Week 6 Discussion Hello, When making this decision, you rst have to dene Modern art as you know it. To me, Impressionism is Modern because it is a groundbreaking technique- a risk that the artists took by putting these works into the world for the rst time. Realism, on the other hand, portrayed scenes from everyday life, even ones that seemed mundane. The movement is not about the paintings looking real. It’s about things that were really happening. Courbet was also known and criticized for painting mid to lower class people of society- partly to raise social awareness. Both are new for the time. See The Stone Breakers by Courbet. Something to think about : ) Julie 112 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Hannah Momoh - Saturday, 24 July 2021, 10:37 AM Hello Julie, Modern art according to studies, can be described as the art of a style marked by a signicant departure from traditional styles and values, in particular that created between the late 19th and the late 20th centuries. (MoMA, n.d.). It could also be dened as the" method with which an artist, writer, performer, athlete, or other producer employs technical skills or materials to achieve a nished product or endeavour". ( MoMA. (n.d.). Reference MoMA Learning. MoMA. (n.d.). https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/themes/what-ismodern-art/. 90 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Kasim Adeleke - Tuesday, 27 July 2021, 4:04 PM Nice to see your comment and learn from it. I know Courbet as a true realist who back then politics did not allow him to actual enjoy his moment. He did not believe in painting or doing his job with restrictions which did not go down well with those in authority then. Thank for a great contribution. 57 words

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Re: Week 6 Discussion by Samad Rezaei - Sunday, 25 July 2021, 12:53 PM At the rst I agree with the sentence that says impressionism is often considered the rst, true, modern art style. It may come as a surprise to know that this art movement was not as popular as it is today, that its works were not sold at astronomical prices, and that it did not attract a large audience. Even the word Impressionism was initially used sarcastically in connection with the rst exhibition of this new art in 1874 by the Association of Unknown Painters, Artists and Sculptors. These artists used the word anonymous quite intentionally. They wanted to avoid any restrictive labels on their group, which consisted of artists with dierent painting styles and techniques. They eventually held eight exhibitions between 1874 and 1886. This group included artists who later became the most famous Impressionist painters; Among these artists were Gustave Caybot, Mary Cassatt, Edgar Degas, Claude Monet, Bert Morrisso, Camille Pissarro, Pierre-Auguste Renoir and Alfred Cisley. Some of them are now associated

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with later modern art movements such as Post-Impressionism or Symbolism. Despite the diversity of these artists, viewers and critics of the time who visited their exhibition expected the group to present works with common goals and characteristics. The label of Impressionism as a new art movement soon emerged with artists from the Association of Unknown Painters at its core. The rst impressionist work to impress critics was Claude Monet's painting Impression: Sunrise. Joseph Vincent; The conservative painter criticized this work in the most ironic way possible, calling Monet's work an unnished wallpaper. Calling an artist an Impressionist in 1874 was an insult; This means that the painter has no skills and lacks common sense to nish his work before selling it.

 “The Luncheon on the Grass (Le déjeuner sur l’herbe) by Édouard Manet, 1863: The painting depicts the juxtaposition of a female nude and a scantily dressed female bather on a picnic with two fully dressed men in a rural setting. Rejected by the Salon jury of 1863, Manet seized the opportunity to exhibit this and two other paintings in the 1863 Salon des Refusés, where the painting sparked public notoriety and controversy.”(Munik. 2015. P1)

The painting’s juxtaposition of fully dressed men and a nude woman was controversial, as was its abbreviated, sketch-like handling, an innovation that distinguished Manet from Courbet. At the same time, this composition reveals Manet’s study of the old Renaissance masters. References: Munik. (2015), The Luncheon on the Grass. Refer to: https://munairmak.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/le-dejeun...