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ENGL 1405 World Literature - Term 3, 2018-2019 Home ► My courses ► ENGL 1405 - AY2019-T3 ► 14 March - 20 March ► Discussion Forum Unit 7 ► Discussion 7 Search forums

Discussion Forum Unit 7 Discussion 7 Subscribe   Discussion 7 by Sarah Macdonald (Instructor) - Wednesday, 30 January 2019, 7:24 PM  For your Discussion Assignment, you will write about the piece of children’s literature you read. You will, describe what you thought of when you read it. You do not have to tell what the story is about, but only what images came to your mind while you read the story. In addition, you must extend the discussion by responding to at least three (3) of your peers’ postings in the Discussion Forum and by rating their posts. Instructions for proper posting and rating are provided inside the Discussion Forum for each week.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Brandon Teems - Thursday, 14 March 2019, 10:55 PM

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 The story I read was the Frog Prince by the Brothers Grimm. As I read this story I had images of another story that is taught at the English Academy I work for in South Korea. It is a similar version of this story but the main character is a prince who is ugly and wishes to be handsome. He was suddenly cursed by a witch and is set free because of the laughter of his people. It really doesn't make much sense but I think they were trying to create a new story about how other people broke the spell by laughing at his ugly appearance as a frog. Maybe it taught him to appreciate what he already had.  While I was reading the original version I was thinking about how much better it is than the recent one. It has a clear theme. In the original version a princess is playing with her favorite golden ball by the spring. She drops it in and cries because she wanted it back. She declares to the world that she would give all of her riches if she could get her ball back. When she made this statement I felt very shocked. I thought that this girl didn't know the importance of the words she said.  Then a frog says that he will get her ball for her if she lets him go home with her, eat from her plate and sleep in her bed. She agrees but is secretly lying. Again I thought that this girl is thinking lightly of the words she says. He gives her the ball and then she runs home. Later the frog comes to the door and asks to be let in. She tells her father what happened at the pond and he tells her that if she gave her word she must do as she said. She reluctantly allows the frog to eat with her and sleep on her pillow for three days. Then he becomes a prince and brings her to his kingdom.  I think the story is trying to teach children that words have weight and power. People shouldn't say things they don't really mean because there are consequences. It is an important message and as an adult I felt frustrated reading about this child who said she would give away her things just for her ball. I am glad she learned her lesson in a positive way and that her father made her keep her word. I could denitely see this going wrong in so many ways.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Shahir Aslam - Friday, 15 March 2019, 9:13 PM 

I agree with the part where you mention how the story is trying to teach children that words have weight and power. The frog/prince story that i know of characterizes a prince who comes under a bad spell, cast from the evil witch. One day the frog gets a kiss from a princess and woohoo he transforms into a prince! They marrry.... blah blah and live happily ever after.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Delicia Strachan - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 10:36 AM 

Hi Brandon, Nice story this is a childhood story everyone may know. Thank you for sharing. The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 36 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Abraham Prado Reyes - Monday, 18 March 2019, 11:56 AM 

Hi Brandon, Thank you for sharing the short-tale, it is a very interesting story. Keep working hard. Abraham Prado The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 39 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Edon Demiri - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 5:16 PM 

Interesting story Brandon. Thanks for sharing it with us. The text length must be between 30 and 125 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 29 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Nzoyem Ngueguin Roussel Desmond - Friday, 15 March 2019, 8:07 PM 

The Surprise by Lili Potpara Something that surprised me in the story I read is the fact that there was no illustration for the story. Especially considering it is supposed to be a children’s book. It was a good one though, it was very interesting. I suppose the lack of illustration can be explained by the fact that the story is not really that long. Although not required for this forum post, “The story is about a young girl that will soon be turning eleven, and she is given a bike as a present; while she actually wishes for a

pony. She has wanted one for a long time. However, she is forced to hide her disappointment when she learns the nancial struggle her father has gone through to get her the bike.“ When reading the story, the image that came to mind was of my own childhood. Pretending to like something to please one’s parents is a familiar feeling. And accepting the fact that we are not children anymore is always a challenging step in life for everyone. We all wish we could remain in our never-ending fairytale but the time eventually comes when we have to grow up.

REFERENCES Potpara, L. (n.d.). The Surprise. Released from http://www.worldliteraturetoday.org/2012/september/surprise-lilipotpara#.U62WXI1dXfQ

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Re: Discussion 7 by Shahir Aslam - Friday, 15 March 2019, 9:15 PM 

Yes, I know how you feel. We all wish we were kids again.  Good discussion. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Discussion 7 by Delicia Strachan - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 10:33 AM 

Hello, Great story. Yes indeed childhood is a short time but being an adult is forever. Thanks for contributing. The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 39 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Sarah Macdonald (Instructor) - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 10:54 AM 

Hi, Nzoyem, Have you ever gone back and reread pieces that you enjoyed as a child? If so, did it maintain the same appreciation? Thanks, Sarah The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 46 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Nzoyem Ngueguin Roussel Desmond - Monday, 18 March 2019, 7:42 PM 

Yes Ma'am, I reread those. they were even more enjoyable than before. As a child, I couldn'tdo the kind of character analysisI can perform today. This gives me a better understanding, making it not only nostalgic but also objectivelybetter.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Edon Demiri - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 5:17 PM 

Short but nicely explained. Thanks for sharing, keep up. The text length must be between 30 and 125 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 29 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Juanita Bledman - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 9:18 PM 

Hey Nzoyem, I think more kids should read those kinds of stories lol. They can be more grateful for the presents they do get. This story is so relatable to alot of us.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Shahir Aslam - Friday, 15 March 2019, 8:41 PM  The story I read is from The Thousand and One Nights collection calledThe Story of the Merchant and the Jinni. Having had watched movies like Alladin and the Lamp and Sinbad the Sailor it was easy for me to conjecture up a picture of what was happening in the story. I was imagining a sherman with a net and bottle from which the huge demon sprouted. Of course the story does not resemble the show I dream of Jeannie. I also knew that the man was a Muslim from the names and words he was uttering. I also felt scared thinking what I would do if the demon was going to kill me. I was amused at the cunningness of the sherman. Last but not least thought, I learnt what a powerful

man Solomon, son of David, was having the ability to control and talk the language of animals and birds.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Sarah Macdonald (Instructor) - Saturday, 16 March 2019, 3:23 PM 

Hi, Shahir, Do you think you would want to read any more of the collection after this story? Thanks, Sarah The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 40 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Shahir Aslam - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 2:10 AM 

Oh yes, these stories kind of keep you on captivated. They are stories within a story! The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 36 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Nzoyem Ngueguin Roussel Desmond - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 4:54 AM 

Hello Shahir, I had never heard of this story before. When I read the title, I also thought it was about Aladdinbut it seems quite dierent. Thanks for sharing. Roussel

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Re: Discussion 7 by Juanita Bledman - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 9:23 PM 

Hey Shahir, Sounds like a great short story. Makes me think about how brave the sherman was besides cunning. Fear has a way of paralyzing us in the moment. To be able to be cunning and execute those actions is awesome.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Jeremiah Fletcher - Saturday, 16 March 2019, 6:58 PM    I chose the story of Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, of course, for Kipling is always a treat at any age. His narrative is a proper war story and a proper children's tale, borrowing the best from th Aesop's tradition and some of the best of 20 century Indo-Brittanica (a troubling subject in of itself). Kipling captures in his prolic way some of the wonder in the world that was, even in his time, being lost in the West, and retells a vivid adventure through the eyes of a childlike mongoose. The story makes Rikki into a hero with an adventure, the kind of thing that a young child would aspire to, or at least what they might when they get a little older.

  The story is also full of symbols, all accessible to a child, and develop a world as it should be, with each character developed through an animal as having a particular role and personality. Chuchundra is a timid being, as a rat should be, and Nagaina is cruelly cunning, but maternal, as a cobra should be. Had the villains been human, one would sympathize with them and expect them to behave as humans; a human brute is only ever corrupted but never Death. One might sympathize with the Nagaina pleading for her egg, but only for a moment. One might also notice that the exotic humans are not a part of the garden. Teddy may be in some small way, but even though the adults may plant the watermelons the garden belongs to the animals: to the serpents and the red eyes, and the Coppersmith the humans don't care to hear.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Delicia Strachan - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 10:27 AM 

Hello Jeremiah, Interesting story, I agree that it is a proper children's tale. Thank you for sharing. The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 37 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Ben Dida Tahi - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 7:28 AM 

Hi Jeremiah, Thanks a lot for feedback and the great summary of the story The text length must be between 30 and 100 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 34 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Tricia Patrick Hanley - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 4:52 PM 

Hi! Jeremiah, You have painted a proper picture of Kipling's garden. I love that you describe it as the animals' ownership of the garden. Silly humans! The text length must be between 30 and 125 000 words and le size should not be larger than 70MB 46 words

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Re: Discussion 7 by Edon Demiri - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 5:17 PM 

Hi Jeremiah As the name suggest, interesting story.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Delicia Strachan - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 5:03 AM 

One of my favorite children literature growing up was Charlotte's Web. I thought it was so clever that a spider actually had a name. I thought to myself normally a person would not name a spider by instead they would try to run away from it. It was nice to know that Charlotte would try to help Wilbur. At least in this story, these animals were caring and were self-conscience. It also amazed me how the change of heart came to Zuckerman to not slaughter Wilbur. I loved how Charlotte left her baby spiders with Wilbur to keep his company for the amount of time he had left to live.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Abraham Prado Reyes - Monday, 18 March 2019, 11:59 AM 

Hi Delicia, That is one of my children's favorite stories. I had never heard it when I was a child, but it is a very interesting and beautiful story. Thank you sharing. Keep working hard. Abraham Prado.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Jeremiah Fletcher - Monday, 18 March 2019, 4:14 PM 

Hello! Yes, Charlotte's Web was a story about underdogs. It's not very often that eorts like Charlotte's can change someone's heart, but they should. And children's stories should be about the world as it should be.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Nzoyem Ngueguin Roussel Desmond - Monday, 18 March 2019, 7:47 PM 

Hello Delicia, With such a vivid depiction of the story, I would also like to read it. One could wonder if you feel the same way about naminga spider today. Thanks for sharing. Roussel

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Re: Discussion 7 by Ben Dida Tahi - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 6:56 PM 

The story that I will address here is a famous old French/European one written by Charles Perrault, called Chaperon rouge or "Little Red Riding Hood" in English. It appears the fairy tale has been written by the Grimm brothers too (Wikipedia, n.d.) which makes it famous by many here for sure. I still remember this tale very well, although it's been years since I rst heard from grandma. The reason is that it reminds me to be careful and not believing anybody. Furthermore, the story was a lesson in life, teaching that a bad person can show o as a dear one to devour you at the end. Nevertheless, those images of the wolves are fading now, as I am an open person and believe that good things exist in this life as well.

References: Le Petit Chaperon rouge - Contes-legendes. (n.d.). Retrieved from https://www.iletaitunehistoire.com/genres/contes-legendes/lire/le-petit-chaperon-rougebiblidcon_020 Little Red Riding Hood. (2019, March 02). Retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Riding_Hood

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Hi Ben, You brought back memories to my memory when you mentioned this story. I agree that this story leaves us with many interesting teachings. Thank you for sharing. Keep working hard. Abraham Prado.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Jeremiah Fletcher - Monday, 18 March 2019, 4:36 PM 

Hello! Little Red Riding Hood is certainly famous, it seems like nearly everyone's heard it at some point. I've heard that the Grimm brothers were primarily story collectors instead of writers, so maybe they happened to meet some old person that had heard the original and translated it for them. Either way it is timeless.

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Re: Discussion 7 by Tricia Patrick Hanley - Sunday, 17 March 2019, 8:29 PM  I read The Viking’s Tales by Jennie Hall. As I read, I visualized the peril to be an infant in the times of the Vikings and how important babies of Kings were, and how precarious the life of an infant was then, even the baby of a king. The story was very descriptive, and I was able to imagine what the baby was wearing and how proud the king was of the baby, the milestones that the baby reached, and the gifts the king bestowed on the baby. References The Project Gutenberg eBook of Viking Tales, by Jennie Hall. (n.d.). Retrieved March 17, 2019, from http://www.gutenberg.org/les/24811/24811-h/24811-h.htm#Page_15

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Re: Discussion 7 by Claudio Leitao - Wednesday, 20 March 2019, 8:27 PM  Hi Tricia, We read the same story and had similar impressions about it. The descriptive narration is an immersive tool that drags us into the tale. Thanks for sharing your comments. Best regards, Claudio

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Re: Discussion 7 by Abraham Prado Reyes - Monday, 18 March 2019, 10:23 AM 

Hello classmates,

This week I chose one of the short stories by The Brothers Grimm, The Elves and the Shoemaker.  What came to mind when I was reading this story is a phrase that my father always told me when I was little, "in life for the only thing that there is no solution is for death." We can go through stages in our lives of real diculty, but if we stay positive and with a lot of determination and faith, we can move forward. I like it a lot as in the narrative, and the shoemaker did not bring his problems to bed and decided that in the morning he would take care of the problem. That is an excellent example for us too that we should imitate. One of the problems of our generation today is that we often bring the problems of our work home and those ...